Comments on: What is Histamine? Definition, Function, Receptors & DAO https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/ Cutting-Edge Solutions For a Better Life Fri, 12 Nov 2021 04:55:17 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.8.1 By: Elpedia https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-154088 Fri, 12 Nov 2021 04:55:17 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-154088 Very informative in a simple way that easily be understood.
Thank you!

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By: Rachel https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-76933 Sat, 25 Jan 2020 03:36:14 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-76933 Any ideas on how to increase histamine welcome!
I take harmala alkaloids daily which inhibit histamine n- methytransferase.
I think this is the reason it wakes me up. I’ve suffered from debilitating chronic fatigue all my life and harmalas have helped tremendously, but I’m still looking for ways to increase histamine as an experimental cfs treatment.

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By: Michelle https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-39616 Tue, 09 Oct 2018 23:42:21 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-39616 Hi ,

I’ve recently had a neurotransmitter test done and I have very very low levels of brain histamine. Does anyone know how to raise these levels ?
Seems most people have high histamine so I’m not having much luck on how to raise histamine . Any recommendations are appreciated !

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By: Mike https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-34090 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 01:08:17 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-34090 I am a 23 year old male that suffers from high histamine or undermethylation/ histadelia. Within the last year i went to see a biomedical practioner who diagnosed me with this condition after getting a whole blood histamine test. He then put me on supplements to lower this histamine level. Unfortunately the opposite had happened and my histamine level went up in correlation to me feeling worse during the supplement program i was prescribed. I obviously discontinued the supplements after several months and notified the doctor and they had no idea why the supplements had an adverse effect on me. After doing much research i took the next step by looking at DAO and HNMT enzymes which i know are in charge of breaking down histamine. I dont seem to think i have any issues with DAO however i have many snp’s that are homozygous in HNMT therefore thinking this might be the problem. The internet has lots of information regarding DAO however very little about HNMT and how to correct it. I know this article mentions SAMe is great for HNMT however that was one of the supplenents that i was prescribed during this time period so not sure if it helped or not. Is there anyting else that i am not aware of that i could try to strengthen HNMT or mabey guide me to someone who is an expert in this area or if there is another problem i am unaware of? I have been struggling with mental illness for many years now so any advice would be great

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By: Biljana N https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-28824 Fri, 22 Dec 2017 15:18:06 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-28824 In reply to Tony.

This was a bit harder to find. It seems that histamine hardly passes the blood-brain barrier. Also, there are mechanisms in place in order to keep it out – HNMT is found in the walls of blood vessel where blood-borne histamine gets inactivated. There’s also a shuttle from the brain to the blood that may help to drain brain histamine after excessive surges.
http://www.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/physrev.00043.2007

That said, one of the bad effects of histamine is that it can make the BBB more open in general.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10696506

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By: Tony https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-28809 Fri, 22 Dec 2017 01:52:16 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-28809 I asked this question on the other histamine page and never got an answer so ill ask again… Does histamine you eat cross over the blood-brain barrier???
thanks

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By: carol close https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19897 Mon, 06 Mar 2017 01:20:29 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19897 Usually where there are high histamine levels, there are also high tryptase levels.

To lower histamine levels, eat only fresh foods- eggs, chicken, rice, gluten free pasta/crackers, cream cheese, butter, coconut oil, olive oil, non-citrus juices, milk, herbal teas (not coffee, black tea), fresh/frozen fish, fresh/frozen fruits and vegetables. No tomatoes, strawberries, vinegar, matured cheeses, pickled/canned foods, shellfish, salami and other cured meats, sausages, ham, bologna, etc. No beans, nuts chocolate, peanut butter, ready meals, deli food because its been sitting ,energy drinks, as these are all high in histamines, so the key to low histamine is fresh.

To reduce high tryptase levels, take lactoferrin. (Should be a link back to lactoferrin here). Colostrum is another supplement with lactoferrin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactoferrin Human colostrum (“first milk”) has the highest concentration, followed by human milk, then cow milk (150 mg/L).[3]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10197050 “Inhibitors of tryptase for the treatment of mast cell-mediated diseases.” (These inhibit tryptase elevated in Mast Cell Activation Disorders, Ehlers Danlos and POTs which are linked together in a disease called Familial Tryptasemmia, which also includes these symptoms- chronic skin flushing, itching, or hives, bee sting allergy, dizziness and/or difficulty maintaining a normal pulse and blood pressure, sometimes diagnosed as dysautonomia or postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS), chronic head, back, and joint pain, hypermobile joints, scoliosis, retained primary teeth or other skeletal abnormalities, sometimes diagnosed as Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, Type III, hypermobile type, GI disturbances including heartburn, IBS, and numerous food and drug reactions and intolerances, anxiety, depression, and/or behavioral disturbances). The first three drugs to inhibit tryptase are synthetic and the last is lactoferrin also found in the supplement colostrum: 1) peptidic inhibitors (e.g., APC-366), 2) dibasic inhibitors (i.e., pentamidine-like), 3) Zn(2+)-mediated inhibitors (i.e., BABIM-like), and 4) heparin antagonists (e.g., lactoferrin). They have implicated tryptase as a mediator in the pathology of numerous allergic and inflammatory conditions including rhinitis, conjunctivitis, and most notably asthma. A growing body of data further implicates tryptase in certain gastrointestinal (IBS), dermatological (excema), and cardiovascular disorders as well.

“Mast Cell Activated Disorders” These disorders include these symptoms- 1) Wheezing/pulmonary signs and symptoms -Asthma, Anaphylaxis, Carcinoid tumors. 2) Hives/itching/rash- Atopic dermatosis, Chronic urticaria, Angioedema, Scleroderma, 3) Autoimmune disorders- Vasculitis, Diarrhea/abdominal pain, Allergic reaction to food, Eosinophilic GI disorders, Celiac disease, IBS, VIPoma
4) Hematologic disorders- Myelodysplastic syndrome/myeloproliferative neoplasms, Chronic eosinophilic leukemia.

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By: Nattha Wannissorn https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19745 Tue, 21 Feb 2017 01:35:24 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19745 In reply to Linda.

There’s another enzyme that breaks down histamine called HNMT. Also, painkillers can cause leaky gut.

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By: Linda https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19740 Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:59:56 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19740 Hi Joe,
Do you know the mechanism behind why I am reacting so strongly ( get a terrible rash all over my face and scalp) to histamine/ histamine liberators including lectins and oxalates even though my DAO is normal and both blood and urine levels of histamine are REALLY low? My reactions suddenly started 10 years ago after overconsumption of painkillers for 5 years.

Thank you!

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By: tony https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19672 Thu, 16 Feb 2017 03:03:34 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19672 In reply to carol close.

Wouldn’t anticholinergic drugs like Benadryl up-regulate acetylcholine receptors over time tho??

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By: btrute https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19663 Tue, 14 Feb 2017 19:29:16 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19663 In reply to carol close.

Carol, thank you so much for your insights. I take Alpha GPC each day to help cope with the Benadryl. I will look into starting Bacopa too as my short term memory is not good!

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By: carol close https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19638 Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:36:30 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19638 Re: Estrogen increases histamine. The reference actually says that histamine stimulates estrogen synthesis. Plus, research shows estrogen causes histamine to be excreted, progesterone has a nil effect on histamine excretion; however, testosterone reduces histamine excretion. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1665824/ “Alterations of histamine metabolism after injections of sex hormones in mice” .
Re: Migraine headaches. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26707041 “Is migraine a consequence of a loss of neurohormonal and metabolic integrity? A new hypothesis.” All patients received a complex program which included: hormonorestorative therapy (HT) with bio-identical hormones; correction of balance between sympathetic and parasympathetic systems and simultaneously calcium/magnesium balance; “resetting” the pineal gland; improvement of intestinal absorption through restoration of normal intestinal flora, and a cleanse from parasitic infestation (if necessary). Serum levels of total cholesterol (TC), pregnenolone, dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEAS), progesterone, total estrogen, and total testosterone were determined. results- All patients responded to this regimen. We do not have patients who still have migraine after they started to use this program. Laboratory finding prior to HT showed the significant deficiency in production of all basic steroid hormones (progesterone and pregnenolone production declined the most). Concurrent symptoms such as fibromyalgia, insomnia, depression, gastrointestinal disorders, and fatigue had disappeared. Total cholesterol completely normalized in (91.7%) patients. No adverse effects or complications related to this program were registered.

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By: carol close https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19637 Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:03:23 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19637 Oops, mark alman, not mark allen, where is the edit button on replies

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By: carol close https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19632 Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:34:56 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19632 Re: btrute on Feb. 9, 2017 and mark allen

Joe should link his hormone blogs to this blog entry. Joe is on the right track in his interest of hormones as important signal molecules in autoimmune disorders and the brain gut connection with hormones influencing the initiation of the immune response which includes the maintenance of peripheral tolerance to self-antigens. Hormones, such as pregnenolone, vitamin D, DHEA, estrogens, prolactin, human growth hormone, and especially progesterone (raising it) and cortisol (usually lowering it), may profoundly affect dendritic cells differentiation, maturation and function leading to either a pro-inflammatory or an anti-inflammatory (or tolerogenic) phenotype. A better understanding of the role of sex hormones in the modulation of the brain-gut-microbiota axis should enable a more effective and sex-tailored therapeutic approach in IBS, and autoimmune disorders such as Lupus, Multiple Sclerosis, scleroderma, rheumatoid arthritis. Click on these links below for explanations of hormones affecting IBD, plus autoimmune disorders.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949254/ “Sex Hormones in the modulation of irritable bowel syndrome.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27931211 “Gonadectomy effects on the risk of immune disorders in the dog: a retrospective study.” (This study evaluated the prevalence and risk of atopic dermatitis, autoimmune hemolytic anemia, canine myasthenia gravis, colitis, hypoadrenocorticism, hypothyroidism, immune-mediated polyarthritis, immune-mediated thrombocytopenia, inflammatory bowel disease, lupus erythematosus, and pemphigus complex in neutered dogs. Neutered dogs had a significantly greater risk of atopic dermatitis, autoimmune hemolytic anemia, hypoadrenocorticism, hypothyroidism, immune-mediated thrombocytopenia, and inflammatory bowel disease.)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27585815 “Hormonal Modulation of Dendritic Cells Differentiation, Maturation and Function: Implications for the Initiation and Progress of Systemic Autoimmunity.” (Estrogens, progesterone, prolactin and cortisol affect dendritic cells growth and function leading to either a pro-inflammatory or anti-inflammatory phenotype- An unbalanced hormonal status affects the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines, the expression of activating/inhibitory receptors and co-stimulatory molecules on conventional and plasmacytoid dendritic cells, conferring susceptibility to develop autoimmunity. Estradiol administration to lupus-prone female mice increased the expression of co-stimulatory molecules, enhanced the immunogenicity and produced large amounts of IL-6, IL-12 and TNF-α by bone marrow-derived dendritic cells. These data suggest that estradiol/estrogen receptor signaling may play an active role during lupus pathology.)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1570481/ “The Prevalence of Growth Hormone Deficiency and Celiac Disease.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17086608 “Lower adrenocortical and adrenomedullary responses to hypoglycemia is premenopausal women with systemic sclerosis.” (Evidence showing scleroderma as having decreased adrenocortical and adrenomedullary functions.)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11155790 “Replacement therapy with DHEA, plus corticosteroids in patients with chronic inflammatory diseases– substitutes of adrenal and sex hormones.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27395031 “Network of nuclear receptor ligands in multiple sclerosis: Common pathways and interactions of sex-steroids, corticosteroids and vitamin D3-derived molecules.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28163248“Associations between Endogenous Sex Hormones and MRI Structural Changes in Patients with Symptomatic Knee Osteoarthritis.” (Low estrogen, testosterone and progesterone association in osteoarthritis.)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25697984 “Hormonal modulation of the immune system – A spotlight on the role of progestogens.” (The immunomodulatory effects of progesterone, especially progesterone’s effect on T cells on the innate and adaptive immunity and its role in the pathogenesis of autoimmune diseases including systemic lupus erythematosus, rheumatoid arthritis, and multiple sclerosis.)

A warning Regarding Benadryl and Anticholinergics- Many anticholinergic drugs cause drowsiness and thirst. Many anticholinergic drugs even those

prescribed by doctors, inhibit Delta wave slow wave deep sleep allowing the brain’s glymphatic system to remove the brain’s toxins, cause dementia, inhibit neurotransmission, and disrupt the high cholinergic tone associated with REM sleep affecting procedural memory consolidation. Anticholinergic drugs decrease saliva increasing mouth bacteria and dental plaque, which dental plaque can be found in clogged carotid arteries. Drugs called anticholinergics, block acetylcholine, a nervous system neurotransmitter. They are used to treat gastrointestinal disorders such as gastritis, diarrhea, pylorospasm, diverticulitis, ulcerative colitis, nausea and vomiting. They also treat genitourinary disorders such as cystitis, urethritis and prostatitis. They treat respiratory disorders such as asthma, chronic bronchitis, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). They treat sinus bradycardia due to a hypersensitive vagus nerve. They are used to treat insomnia though usually only on a short term basis. They are used to treat dizziness including vertigo (aka the spins) and motion sickness related symptoms. They include such common over-the-counter brands as Benadryl, Dramamine, Excedrin PM, Nytol, Sominex,Tylenol PM, and Unisom and other decongestants. Other anticholinergic/antispasmodic drugs, which include certain antidepressants, meds to control incontinence, certain pain relievers, antihistamines, decongestants, barbituates, muscle relaxers, benzodiazepines, CNS stimulants, tricyclic antidepressants, and drugs available only by prescription such as Paxil, Detrol, Demerol, Wellbutrin, and Elavil can cause dementia. In total, there are more than 68 doctor prescribed and over the counter anticholinergic/antispasmodics which cause dementia and even some drugs that are prescribed for neurodegenerative disorders are anticholinergic exasperating neurodegenerative disorders! The Fix to undo anticholinergic effects causing dementia- Bacopa and huperzine which inhibit anticholinesterace which is the culprit that breaks down acetylcholine. Piracetam and choline are known to activate the cholinergic system and alleviate cognitive symptoms caused by extended use of anticholinergic drugs.

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By: Nattha Wannissorn https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19630 Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:44:47 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19630 In reply to Mark Alman.

thanks. we’ll add it to the post.

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By: Mark Alman https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19629 Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:44:17 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19629 …I’m surprised you didn’t highlight this role (I discovered) from one of your citations:

“Thyroid functions play a role in energy metabolism, thermogenesis, and bone physiology. TRH is synthesized in preoptic, paraventricular, and periventricular neurons, from where it is transported and released into the hypophysial portal circulation. The majority of the TMN neurons are excited by TRH (673), and hypothalamic neuronal histamine in turn has predominantly inhibitory effects on the hypothalamo-pituitary-thyroid (HPT) axis (356). Histamine decreases TRH release and TSH plasma levels through H2R in both hypothalamic and pituitary targets (477). Cimetidine facilitates cold-induced and TRH-induced TSH responses (501, 771). Systemic l-thyroxine administration, along with rises in T3 and T4 levels, increases cortical 5-HT and histamine content, whereas carbimazole treatment lowers histamine, glutamate, and 5-HT levels, suggesting a T3/T4-mediated negative feedback on TRH production by histamine (778). TRH is also a cotransmitter of glutamatergic neurons located in DMH (110) and serotonergic neurons in the raphe implicated in TRH-induced suppression of food intake by histamine (215) and effects on behavioral state (612).”

http://physrev.physiology.org/content/88/3/1183.long

…a revelation to me

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By: btrute https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19602 Thu, 09 Feb 2017 17:31:29 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19602 Wow Carol, your knowledge and writing is very impressive. Do you blog or forum post where I might correspond with you? Is a baseline blood tryptase test going to be telling if I am taking Benadryl regularly. Benadryl changed my life after having IBD for many years. Best!

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By: carol close https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19527 Sat, 04 Feb 2017 00:16:56 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19527 Also, POTS, Ehler Danlos, and MCAS are linked to gluten intolerance. And, the food allergy is simply the warning sign that food intolerance is taking place in the gut. Again, the IgE is formed at the time the damage to the villi is taking place and the main culprits are the “big 4”- gluten (wheat, barley, rye), casein (dairy products), soy, and corn- the top 4 human allergens and the primary allergens. We know that most other food allergies are secondary to this damage, a condition known as the “leaky gut syndrome” in people. This fascinating process develops when the intestine releases a hormone called “zonulin”, which increases the flow of nutrients through the compromised bowel wall. Unfortunately, food proteins (and other things) pass though the wall in an abnormal fashion, setting the individual up for secondary food allergies to otherwise healthy foods (eggs, rice, chicken, tree nuts, tropical fruits, etc.). Celiacs are notorious for developing multiple secondary food allergies. This villous damage and atrophy then leads to the malabsorption of calcium, iron, iodine, B complex, C, and multiple trace minerals, nutrients essential in the formation and maintenance of our entire body including the enzyme systems that are so vital to its function. So, why doesn’t the collagen form properly in Ehler Danlos? Kinda falls into the “duh” category now, doesn’t it? And those with food intolerances such as celiac disease have staggering rates of immune-mediated disorders- Hashimoto’s and Graves disease, rheumatoid arthritis, type one diabetes, lupus, and other immune-mediated diseases. Why is that? Well, all we really have to understand is the concept of lectins and we’re off and running. Could it be that collagen is just another tissue type that the immune system decides to attack at some point, just as it does blood cells, kidneys, eyes, the pancreas, and the peripheral nerves? Could some of these spontaneous (and even some of the not-so-spontaneous cruciate ruptures be immune mediated? Where do lectins go when they enter the body? The same place that paramyxoviruses go…everywhere ! Have you ever thought of an immune-mediated disease as “house-cleaning”, with the immune assaults wiping out the lectins and the viruses they “broke out of jail” by changing the cell wall’s physiology and causing those viruses…embedded in the cells cytoplasm and those in our very DNA- to adapt to the challenge? You are right to tell people to get their DNA analyzed and they can avoid diseases epigenetically. You have figured out a lot and are helping a lot of people.

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By: carol close https://selfhacked.com/blog/histamine/#comment-19502 Wed, 01 Feb 2017 16:33:35 +0000 https://selfhacked.com/?p=30086#comment-19502 Probably the major cause of high histamine is recently discovered Heriditary Alpha Typtasemia which 6% of the population has, inheriting extra copies of the alpha tryptase gene, and links three diseases. POTS, Ehler Danlos, and MCAS (Mast Cell Activation Disorder). One study actually shows tryptase keeps you from going into anaphylactic shock. Patients who suspect they may have hereditary alpha tryptasemia syndrome should first have a baseline blood tryptase test drawn by their doctor, if they haven’t already. It should not be drawn immediately after a major allergic reaction, as that can lead to an elevated tryptase for a different reason. A serum level greater than 10 ng/ml is suggestive of alpha tryptasemia, while a level lower than 8ng/ml makes this diagnosis far less likely. There is no commercially available test for the genetic duplication, and it cannot be identified through usual genetic testing including microarrays, whole exome sequencing, or whole genome sequencing. The research-based test that can diagnose alpha tryptasemia is under development.

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